To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. What the heck? If you need to balance reach and punch with minimal weight, Id look to the 7mm magnums pushing 150- to 175-grain bullets. The factory ammo and brass is cheaper for the 28 Nosler. bear a closer comparison. Mag. trajectory may explain how the 7mm Rem. After years of hunting and shooting from Africa to Alaska, I think most get cartridge enery wrong. Id go the 27 Nosler, the 270 WSM is awesome. Not sure of performance gains or losses between the two. But in the chart it says it carries it to over 1200 yards. Jim. Some folks will take any attempt to improve the .270 Winchester as a direct insult, yet I disagree: like the .22-250 Remington and .35 Whelen, an improved twist rate can really change the game altogether, and this is exactly what the 27 Nosler has done. Consequently, it is not surprising that the bullet did not pass through. The final arbiters of the Best elk calibers are you and the elk, but here are my top five that I chose for their balance of power, reach, recoil, trajectory (drop and drift,) availability, affordability in reasonably compact, light, mountain ready rifles. Roughly equivalent to a . The .28 Nosler cartridge is one of the best cartridges for hunting elk as long as controlled-expansion bullets are used. but doesnt kick as hard. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. bullet like the Swift Scirocco will retain 2,350 ft-lb at 400 yards, 1,500 ft-lb clear out at 600 yards. Manufacturer #: 61237. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. The result is a standard setting offering from Nosler that redefines performance as radically now as the 270 Winchester did upon its introduction in 1925. Traditional .270s are limited by 1:10 rifling twist to 150-grain bullets. The .338/06 adds about 200 fps muzzle velocity for about two inches less drop at 300 yards and roughly 300 ft-lb more punch. If I were planning a rifle elk hunt, these are cartridges and calibers I would consider, across the gamut of elk hunting conditions. throwing similar weight projectiles means youre packing elk medicine. So, next best thing: If youre serious about longer shots on elk, man up and use a fast .30 with todays heavy, low-drag bullets, 200 to 225 grains. To contain 80,000 psi pressures SIG has built a reportedly beefy rifle. This meant the .338 Win. The .28 Nosler is a cartridge developed by the Nosler Corporation. Okay, but minimal. Re-barrel to the 27 Nosler and go kill elk. Loaded with a 150gr bullet, the 27 Nosler is 400fps faster than a 270 Win, and 300fps faster than a 270 WSM at the muzzle. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Any rifle strong enough to contain the 7mm Rem. Again, bullet weight. With the right bullets, it can actually hit harder than the 375 H&H Magnum at longer ranges. One of the most popular magnums of all time. I warned you this is a big family. By 600 yards that energy advantage will have dropped to just 180 ft-lb. Winchesters original loadings included a 200-grain bullet rated 3,000 fps, a 250-grain at 2,700 fps, and a heavy 300-grain at 2,450 fps from 24-inch barrels. Can Coolers | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Find More Great NRA Publications Perfect For Every Interest, Discover Everything That The NRA Has To Offer. Drawbacks to the .28 Nosler. However, you should be aware that the recoil on a .28 Nosler is not right for all shooters. Its a bolt action looking quite a bit like an AR-15. How about outstanding accuracy, flat trajectories, long legs and a 165gr wallop at the end of that ballistic journey? wheaties300 Well-Known Member. Whats best for you depends on the distance you intend to shoot, based on where you hunt. Although Ive been shooting all my life, I have to mentally check my shoulder mount before I pull the trigger. The tighter the cover, the shorter the rifle. Again, bullet weight. To prevent the risk of a 28 Nosler cartridge being chambered in a 27 Nosler chamber, the shoulder of the 27 Nosler has been moved slightly rearward, lengthening the neck slightly. Recoil is stout, but manageable. The general consensus is that this old, belted magnum is the best caliber for elk hunting. If I can shoot the .28 Nosler without any issues, the vast majority of adult male shooters wont have any issues either. A 140- to 150-grain .264 driven to the same speeds as a .270 Win. They shoot flatter, but they kick me into next week. The .28 Nosler shoots flat and powerfully, but it is expensive to shoot, burns barrels quickly, and has significant recoil. For general Big Game hunting, caliber and expected bullet performance is how I judge killing ability. | Absolutely! Mag. A couple of friends swear by the .444 Marlin for hunting elk in oak brush. These rifle weight/size considerations will influence cartridge size, especially length. With these two cartridges coming on line, our .270 selection has just grown from four members to six: 6.8mm Remington SPC, .270 Winchester, .270 WSM, and .270 Wby. It shoots a svelte .277-caliber 165-grain . because maximum average chamber pressure is 64,000 psi. The newest addition to the Nosler line of proprietary cartridges is the 27 Nosler. Some .30-calibers work best in lever actions, some in short actions, some in full magnum actions. Slide up to some of the new 190-gr. The .277 Fury works with much higher chamber pressures to get high velocity. 28 Nosler is a one and done for everything on NA. More power. During most of its 93 years of existence, the .270 Winchester has been quite popular among hunters, and for as long as I can remember, it has made the Top Five big-game cartridge list at RCBS, according to reloading die sales . Weatherbys .300 magnum had been dazzling magnum fans since the mid 1940s, but it was a full-length magnum caliber available only in expensive custom or Weatherby Rifles. The partition has proven itself over the years to penetrate deep. If you were to buy a scope for all around elk hunting/500 yards and in 2.5x8 would be just . Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. The .30/30, .300 Savage, .30/06, .300 Win. That said, dozens, nay hundreds of elk are layed low each fall by careful application of the 6.5 Creedmoor, a near ballistictwin of the Swede. If you like velocity, the 27 Nosler will fit the bill, as it drives the 150-grain bullets to a muzzle velocity of 3300 fps, and the 165-grain bullets to 3150 fps. Mag. Because of lower pressure and achieving full velocity with less powder, the .30-06 has less felt recoil than a 7mm Remington Magnum. Not exactly modern, not sizzling, hot or sexy. The size of elk also varies. Which begs the question: Why arent more bird hunters using them? Both new rounds exceed the ballistics of the old one, but do it in different ways. After all, this was the round Bell used to collect 800 elephants and untold numbers of Cape buffalo. may have inspired Winchester to bring out its marvelous .300 magnum the very next year. Some of us hunt still-hunt elk in black timber and on brushy lower slopes. The 26 Nosler has a higher muzzle velocity than the 28 Nosler, making it ideal for long-range shooting. A .270 Winchester would generate about 20 ft-lbs in the same rifle. In both cases, the 163 grain ELD-X bullet did not exit the animals body and used all that energy inside the vitals. I had a long and happy love affair with the 8mm Rem Mag. At 800 yards the 28 Nosler carries just over 2000 ft lbs of energy. If there were a factory load of .28 Nosler Cartridges with a 168-grain Barnes LRX, Id order a whole pallet right away. I think a .30-06 with 180-grain bullet offers about the same performance as a 7mm Remington Magnum with 175-grain bullet. This is, perhaps, one of the worst ways to measure a cartridges suitability for hunting because it doesnt take into account shot placement or bullet design; however, it at least provides some barometer of the cartridges power. Thats excellent performance for a tough animal. This point, however, brings up a problem with the .28 Nosler if you plan to shoot factory loads rather than reloading yourself. Thats the key to each of these new .270 cartridges. For big bears, I prefer 250-grain bullets, but for elk I stick with 200 to 225-grain bullets. of .616 from a 24-inch barrel 3,000 fps and a 190-gr. Bullets engineered to expand at 7mm terminal velocities are the ticket, and there are plenty of them. Last year, I purchased a Browning X-Bolt Pro in .28 Nosler. UPC #: 054041612371. I used a 7mm Rem Mag for years, great cartridge. Any rifles already chambering for any of the fatter magnums like the RUMs, Dakotas, or .338 Lapua should be fit to fit the 27 Nosler. The 225-grain load in an eight-pound rifle should generate about 40.8 ft-lb of recoil energy. Many an elk hunter has suggested the .300 Win. So, in open country, a fast 7mm has tremendous appeal. We may earn revenue from the products available on this page and participate in affiliate programs. This gives it the necessary elasticity to expand and seal the chamber while the stronger steel keeps the head from rupturing. In comparison a 250-grain slug at 2,600 fps will churn up just 3,750 ft-lb. This little brother to the .338 Win. For deer and pronghorn, to much gun. Mag. Equally significant is the 27 Noslers recommended twist rate: 1 turn in 8.5 inches. This will be influenced significantly by the terrain youll hunt. The 27 Nosler should be easy enough. Despite these developments, the original .270 Winchester continued to rule the roost. If needed, 27 Nosler brass can be formed from 30 Nosler brass. Will you be able to find ammo? Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. In the past, you had to handload to get these, but long-range shooters have created sufficient demand that many ammo makers now offer factory ammo featuring bullets heavier than 200-grains. I did as instructed, leveling the crosshair of the Leupold VX-3HD on the onside shoulder, and breaking the trigger of the Nosler Model 21 rifle, sending a 150-grain Nosler AccuBond on its way to make meat. Im convinced these new, heavy bullets elevate the .270s performance on larger game: Similar to the 7mms with like bullet weights; and exceeding the capability of any 6.5mm. Mag. In the article it states that the 28 Nosler carries 1500 ft lbs tot 747 yards. Mag., and elk hardly know the difference. Google a 270 win - 280 rem comparison and it will tell you all you need to know. from a .338 Federal should deliver 1,711 f-p energy at 300 yards and drop just nine inches. Historians of guns and ammo credit OConnors writings for popularizing the little .270, which was and still is a bit of an oddball caliber. Traditional .270s are limited by 1:10 rifling twist to 150-grain bullets. The 27 Nosler has a neck length of 0.328, so neck tension isnt an issue at all; generally speaking, the cartridges neck should be at least one caliber in length, and most are, with the glaring exception of the .300 Winchester Magnum. In local stores, you are unlikely to find anything other than Hornadys Precision Hunter 162-grain ELD-X, or a Noslers 175-grain Trophy Hunter load with an Accubond bullet. Look at ammo cost to either buy or reload, whichever you do. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. In addition to the caliber, Nosler also introduced new 165gr . That is, the best of the best for terminating elk without beating up shooters. (Photo: Kristin Alberts/Guns.com) Synonymous with quality hunting ammunition, Nosler shakes things up in the .270 world introducing a new caliber - the 27 . It will them be 3.0 inches high at 260 yards and 3.0 inches low at about 326 yards. On the other side of the caliber scale are the .35 Whelen (.30/06 necked up) and various .375s. Not so long ago, I shot a nice Montana bull from the top of a ridge, down onto a little bench at 350 yards, 180-grain .30-06. The .280 Ackley Improved is hot these days, flying about 100 fps behind the 7mm Rem. Why so fast? I also have a 28 Nosler and am very impressed with its performance. If you hunt where the game is tough, the shots are long and demanding, and there is no room for compromise, there is no better choice than the 27 Nosler. We had set up in what I considered to be a less-than-advantageous position, a bit too skylined for my liking, and with very little cover. In addition to the caliber, Nosler also introduced new 165gr AccuBond Long Range bullets in .277, specifically designed for the 27 Noslers faster-than-standard 1-8.5 twist rate. A few more calibers throwing those famous .308 bullets include the .300 Ruger Compact Magnum, .300 SAUM, .300 WSM, .30/308 Norma Mag., .300 H&H, 30 Nosler, .300 Wby. Hunters typically but incorrectly use the best elk calibers to mean cartridge, but Ill use calibers for the sake of this review. Still, any .37-caliber pushing 250- to 300-grain bullets faster than about 2,500 fps is going to lead to copious amounts of skinning and packing. The .270s are similarly adequate for elkwith caution. Thats good enough for 3,500 ft-lb muzzle punch. Hunting elk is hard work. Short in the Elvis era meant standard or 30/06 length: 3.340-inches overall cartridge length, down from the 3.6-inches of the parent cartridge.