We make decisions with the best interest of the animal in milk because on farms we realize we have a symbiotic relationship with the animals and nature. That is a scapegoat answer- how are you making the world better for cows. Somatic cell count, a measurement of the amount of white blood cells, IS NOT a measurement of pus. Infection and pus need not be present for there to be white blood cells. The FDA allows a certain amount of puss in the milk; the equivalent to one eyedropper full per gallon. About IOT; The Saillant System; Flow Machine. The dairy guy. If youstart experiencing NutritionFacts.org withdrawal symptoms, get your fix with our1,149 topictag cloud. You can read my previous article on fat to learn about the nutrition misconceptions that have caused the health epidemic today. Those who deny this invariably fall back on cliches (only calves should drink cows milk) or rely on falsehoods like the pus myth. As Ive often said, An assertion is not a fact. The average somatic cell count in a spoonful of milk in the US is over one millionwhich equates to an average of around 1 drop of pus in the average glass of milk. I am certain you are the best of dairy farmers, but I dont know all the different dairies whose milk is combined with yours. As lawmakers craft the 2022 -23 state budget, the House and Senate are pushing to boost pay for state employees, local school staffers and certain health care workers. It is a proper word with a proper meaning and its not for you, me or anyone else to change or deny that definition; it is what it is, its good old PUS and its in your milk! You can read about how we use alternatives to antibiotics at the dairy here. **A cow enjoying her dry, comfortable bedding**, The cows also have the luxury of taking a shower before every milking. Thanks! Breastfeed milk with BLOOD and PUS. If theres no puss in milk then why is there an acceptable limit . Lots of people get a shitty deal in life unfortunately, it aint right but its the way it has been and always will be for the foreseeable future so try not to let it bother you. Do you think you too could evolve, to farm something other than animals? Florida has seen results as high as 19% pus content. This level of disease is reflected in the concentration of somatic cells in the American milk supply. If it was so awful and bad for me, Id have experienced a huge change when I stopped drinking it. Just think of that for a moment! Back to the real world you make your farm sound like a lovely place to be enslaved, but what about the horrific conditions on industrial sized factory farms? First, players will need to download and Emulator. Not the only stupid animal, Ants do it too https://www.dairymoos.com/ants-milk-aphids/. I knew it couldnt be true when I heard it from a friend who seened it on u-tube. That does not even make sense. Pus is very rarely green, it is usually white or yellow. This test shows the level of somatic cells in a sample of milk. America consumes the most dairy in the world, yet America also has the most people diagnosed with osteoporosis, by the way long time vegans dont get osteoporosis like dairy consumers. Thank you for this comment. Adagio Overview; Examples (videos) Do your cows go outside? (more here). The udder sac is hard, tight, and firm. I grew up on milk. Its like having compassion is bad now??? Here is your argument: Pus is a liquid that forms in infected tissue. Good work! We have feelings and deeply care about animals. But just as parents may not want to feed their children fecal matter in meat even if its irradiated fecal matter, they might not want to feed their children pasteurized pus. Im sure there are other people with the same concerns. It is clear that not only is this horrible invasive practice acceptable to you but totally justified. A variety of ages are present on our dairy. Even when I grew then myself to prove it isnt evil pesticides. But I loved smoking too, till it just wasnt worth it anymore. Many of those undercover videos are staged by activists. The video also shows that the other two bovines produce a white liquid. Is there pus in milk? Its nothing to be grossed out about. Those who have an ideological or commercial reason to want us to fear milk are trying to convince us that SCC and pus are interchangeable terms. Milk has even been scientifically shown to reduce incidence of osteoporosis. According to the narrator, the cows have been separated from the rest of the herdbecause in the days following calving, they secrete a liquid called colostrum that is thick and creamy,and "you can't really sell it anyways.. PETA kills animals and throws their bodies in dumpsters so they dont have to live in this world. During a fucking pandemic caused by your horrible fucked up industry.. why are you drinking a baby cows milk? If you care about their well-being there are ways that you can contribute. Turning dairy cows into milk machines has led to epidemics of so-called production-related diseases, such as lameness and mastitis (udder infections), the two leading causes of dairy cow mortality in the United States. Besides, it contains casein which is addictive and that is why people cant stop eating dairy. Why, because they dont measure the number of cells in meat. Dairy guy, Id appreciate your honest answers to my questions as I seek for more clarification on milk. Let Bessie feed her kids with hers. Just because you copy and paste propaganda and put things in capital letters does not make it truth. According to my calculations* based on USDA data released last month, the average cup of milk in the United States would not be expected to contain more than a single drop of pus. Is your farm like theirs? Mastitis can also occur as a result of chemical, mechanical, or thermal injury. So how much pus is there in a glass of milk? Think about it farmers are just like you, they have a heart. And finally, almost all text that I have read about dairy and meat consumption causing health issues and cancers are in comparison to developing countries that are too poor to consume them. Then there are the pesticides & antibiotics in the milk. Mastitic milk is never green! When slavery was legal there were hundreds, maybe thousands, of people getting very rich from it as a business. When mastitis is detected, either via testing or the daily visual inspection of each cows milk before the milkingmachine is attached, the milk from that cow does not enter the supply chain until the infection has cleared. n. A generally viscous, yellowish-white fluid formed in infected tissue, consisting of white blood cells, cellular debris, and necrotic tissue. , I cant even drink milk because of lactose intolerance, but I absolutely would if I could. We use a natural remedy with vitamins that helps boost the cows immune system so they can fight the infection naturally. and the link that you provided for the burning of trucks.. there were no animals aboard. Leucocytes. Theres enough plant food on this planet to feed every human being yet do you care? It is hard to estimate how long a cow will live to because many farms will sell older cows. Calcium and protein is in so many vegetables, its like ignoring what we have right in front of us. No one recoils in horror at the thought that a steak or a hamburger contains cow's blood our beef with ingesting blood apparently stops at the fork.) 6) are your dairy cows grain fed or grass fed? Hmm also, you need to take in magnesium in order to get the smallest benefit from animal milk. Im sorry, but the blog of a dairy farmer, if thats what you actually are, is not a non-biased source of information when it comes to this issue. In Florida, milk is tested for antibiotics and high somatic cell counts before it is even put on the truck to go to the creamery. When you are sick you consult your doctor, when you need legal help you consult your lawyer, when you want to build a house, you consult an architect so why should it be any different when you want to know about your food. Cows today are treated so much better than in the past. Living on vegetables is impossible unless you buy your food from factories that process and refine your food in unnatural ways. So to what are these people referring? Last updated: Im not a dairy farmer, nor is anyone is my family, but I did raise dairy cows in 4-H as a youth. I would love to add Dairy back to my Diet but articles like the above really put me off. The U.S. dairy industry, however, insists that there is no food safety risk. I think once you understand mastitis, you can understand how the pus myth originated. As you care so much, I am curious to know what you think your cows get out of a life trapped on your farm? Sometimes a cow will develop an infection of the udder called mastitis. So, the next time you are elbow deep in a cows vagina, please tell me how normal and natural it feels. Its not even an argument.. And to say vegans contribute nothing towards making animals lives better, when they blatantly do by not harming them, eating them, milking them, exploiting them, stealing from them, using them, skinning or plucking them, is laughable and I hope everyone who reads your hollow words can see that. Not having a go, my preference is that animals live in their natural environment but yours sound positively pampered. The average somatic cell count in U.S. milk per spoonful is 1,120,000. I wasnt even talking to you in the first place And if you dont even care, then why did you reply to my comment? The purpose you claim cows serves at the end (of their lives) involves violently killing them against their will, which is plainly cruel and morally questionable. There is however, money in dairy farming. Interested to know. Additionally, all milk is tested on farm and at the processing plant for antibiotic residues; if residues are detected, all contaminated milk is discarded and the farmer responsible pays a hefty fine. We all remember the Humane Society of the United States investigation showing sick and crippled dairy cows being beaten and dragged into the California dairy cow slaughter plant en route to the national school lunch program, triggering the largest meat recall in history. Antibiotics cost $$$. i do however think that the life of many dairy cows probably isnt very nice particularly the ones which produce milk at rock bottom prices.. They see humanity as a scourge on the earth that needs to be eliminated. Ridiculous isnt it! But organic farmers do have other treatment methods to use besides anti-biotics, and their cure rates are about the same. When a cow is infected, greater than 90% of the somatic cells in her milk are neutrophils, the inflammatory immune cells that form pus. After milking teats cleaned and antiseptic applied. Does this article apply to only organic milk ? Milk-secreting tissue, and various ducts throughout the mammary gland are damaged due to toxins by the bacteria. It is nothing like the same as humans genetically selecting cows with unnaturally large udders, artificially inseminating them so they constantly produce milk, keeping them confined against their will and steeling the milk which they most definitely did not produce for your consumption. Anything you can say in addition to the article above, to mitigate my fears/distaste will be welcomed. Theres plenty more vegetables that are the same. can earn additional bucks every month with new monetization method. To tell you the truth, there is no such thing as a pus cell. You sound just a bit too good to be true, my dairy farming friend. Mastitis will only cause the milk to be watery, or have flakes or clots. Somatic cell counts greater than a million per teaspoon are abnormal and almost always caused by mastitis. Anyway going off on a tangent a bit, i know youre probably based the US not the UK but keep up the good work , Thanks for you polite comments, I really appreciate that . I thought you was relpying to be since that your comment was on my gmail, so thats why I thought it was a relpy towards me.. PS: With my Fall speaking tour ramping up this week, Im going to have to scale back to just a new NutritionFacts.org video every weekday given my unreliable internet access on the road. your spelling is wrong in so many ways and that leads me to think any statement of yours will be the statement of an uneducated follower of whatever fact hes told first. I just wanted to tell you: thank you for taking all the name-calling and internet-yelling (typing in all-caps) so nicely. It makes you look stupid. Written By Pus is made up of dead white blood cells, dead skin cells, and bacteria, not one type of cell. Where do these rumours begin? They never roam far away and always willingly go back to their home.. That is a strange concept when you consider they are killed against their will to become products; that just does not make sense! The key to curing mastitis is advanced detection. No mastitic milk ever leaves the dairy. If you are looking for answers about dairy, please be critical. Some connections should be made her by intelligent people. In order for you to continue getting milk you would force the cow to get pregnant then take the calf away so you can profit off of her utter milk that was provided for her calf, not for you. Thanks to its nutritional value, colostrum can also be processed and sold as a dietary supplement for human use. The Odyssey retains its second-row seats that slide fore and aft as well as side to side. Dont worry, these calves get treated no differently than the females and colostrum is a must. It would be bad business for farmers not to treat them well. Somatic cells are not puss. Period! What happens to all those babies who never get mothers milk?? All milk, including human milk, naturally contains somatic cells. The lotion makes sure to kill any bacteria. A nonsensical question, and I think you know it. Unless youre abusing your animals. There are dead neutrophils present, live nutrophils, dead tissue cells, blood proteins, dead and sometimes live bacteria. A million cells per spoonful sounds like a lot, but pus is really concentrated. Why do people have a lactose problem? Dairy Guy, youre fighting a losing battle, Im afraid. lol America is hardly the largest milk consuming country, far down on the list. By avoiding dairy I choose not to contribute to the exploitation of cows. All vegans are extremists? The events listed on the calendar are currently up to date. It doesnt matter the size, dairy farms are not factories. Its only okay when you hand someone money to murder a sick animal for you. It is much more than selecting production qualities, it is about balancing all aspects of the cow. We all know the benefits you enjoy ($$$$$$$) from your mutual relationship with your cows. Markets change. Based on the way you routinely treat animals, Im guessing youre a meat eater Dairy Guy (forgive me if Im wrong), so enjoy munching those ligaments and arteries, washed down with pus-milk, yum! And thats just not right.. Im not insinuating anything though, just letting you know what all dairies do . As in: how he makes it through his life. Im here now to apologise. dead white blood cells which are in milk. Yes because all vegans are extremists and push this wrong information onto you. Why not consult the one who actually worked to produce it. lol when the apocalypse happens, Im glad your belief system will keep you occupied. It is easy to spread lies, but harder to admit truth. Answer From Julie Baughn, M.D. just so we can keep on drinking pus. It just depends if you like to pay more for you milk, My husband and I lived and worked on a big dairy in Salem Oregon the cows were not confined they ranged freely in a beautiful green pasture not fed antibiotics. But theres no need to talk to each other online in a way we would never talk face-to-face. There is what can be called pus and blood in most milk and certianly in milk from cows treated with rbst. I look up whats in milk.dead white blood cells.then I look up pus and the definition is dead white blood cells. Unfortunately the life expectancy in those countries is so young that people never grow old enough to get cancer/heart disease/osteoporosis. Somatic cell counts greater than a million per teaspoon are abnormal and almost always caused by mastitis. Read it here https://www.dairymoos.com/debunked-nutritionfacts-org-puss-in-milk/. Animal rights folks are not better at caring for the animals. What??? No artificial hormones sorry, I didnt respond because I was planning to do an article response. Ive done my research and the difference between us is that IM NOT TRYING TO SELL ANYTHING. Other than that, organic and non-organic are virtually the same. For those familiar with breastfeeding, youll know that humans too can develop mastitis. Please explain to all of us the benefits a dairy cow enjoys? So it doesnt make sense to compare the two when the age populations are not the same. Dead leucocytes used to fight infection. Why is it ok to do this to another species when its not healthy or beneficial to either the cow or consumer? Maybe that's why people started Googling "cockroach milk snopes," convinced it was a . But all the other farms are. At the beginning of the video, a man with a British accent can be heard explainingthat he is about to milk three cows ready to give milk for the first time after giving birth. The quality of care is equal or greater on larger farms. i dont care .. not your milk !! Under the current system, cows live happy healthy lives and then they serve a purpose at the end. Cows were showered before milking and teats checked and cleaned with antiseptic. We aim to reduce cases of mastitis by ensuring that our cows live in a clean and sanitary environment. Its simply a bad idea economically. snopes debunks adoption site.pdf: . I think he knows what he is talking alittleeeee bit more than the fanatics making their claims. I would love to know what MUTUAL benefits you refer to??? The abuse is being done by the activist themselves. Milk is not even healthy nor can we absorb the calcium countless studies show that the rate of OSTEOPOROSIS IS HIGHEST IN COUNTRIES THAT CONSUME THE MOST DAIRY likewise those counties with considerably less dairy consumption had significantly less osteoporosis. This is completely idiotic and is completely manipulated. can u imagine a woman all her life to live in a room and to be forcibly impregnated every year so you can take her baby and suck her milk ?! So eat and drink what you want to. Theres no pus in milk dumb ass. Maybe you are the best, a great guy who loves his cows and treats them with respect, never harming them, always showing compassion and making sure you consider their needs and interests. As always, questions or comments are more than welcome in the comments section below! Perhaps you can remind us what the acceptable legal limit for white blood cells (pus) in milk is? So there is small amount of pus in our milk, but will there be less in the red low fat milk.. , You clearly didnt read the debunked myth! Im not a dictator, but want this to be a place where real discussion can take place. The average somatic cell count in U.S. milk per spoonful is 1,120,000.. You talk like they chose this life and somehow agreed to be part of your money-making operation. If anything is detected, its flushed immediately and never leaves the farm. Somatic cell count, according to the industrys own National Mastitis Council, reflects the levels of infection and resultant inflammation in the mammary gland of dairy cows, but somatic cells are not synonymous with pus cells, as has sometimes been misleadingly suggested. It is a WELL ESTABLISHED FACT that the hormones put in cows make ALL of them sick HENCE WHY ANTIBIOTICS ARE USED in 100% of them. So some cows that get mastitis are treated with antibiotics. 100 pounds of food a dayear to get 7 gallons of milk?????? when it is born? An udder infection called mastitis is very common in dairy cows and causes pus to leach into milk. Unfortunately there are people who dont want you to drink milk. blue pus pus with a bluish tint, seen in certain suppurative infections, the color occurring as a result of the presence of an antibiotic pigment (pyocyanin) produced by Pseudomonas aeruginosa. I grew up on it. Bob did you even read the link I recommended? I look for a PDF Ebook about : Snopes milk pus. Thankful for people who dont ignore the truth, regardless of how ugly it is. Then it depends on the cellular concentration of pus. Pus is not the correct term its a slang for drum roll please. 4 min read. pus in milk snopes. Also I dont have or own a dairy farm ( did I ever mention? Plus then there are also a lot of regulations monitoring milk quality, and cleanliness. Stupid! However it doesn't happen very often at all. Evolve or die. This excessive metabolic drain overburdens the cows, who are considered productive for only two years and are slaughtered for hamburger when their profitability drops, typically around their fourth birthday, a small fraction of their natural lifespan. Pages that push vegetarian or vegan diets or lifestyles may not be interested in telling the whole truth about dairy. Try to find the source of the information, and verify that it is from an unbiased agency. In pretty much all commercial (for sale) dairy operations the calf FOR WHOM THE MILK WAS CREATED never get a taste. Your PETA claim is silly and bogus as they are in no way the official standard bearer of animal rights; in fact many animal rights folks as you like to call em, are opposed to PETA. September 8, 2011 But I no longer drink it often in exchange for almond or soy milk because of issues like these. And then decide who to trust. All of them believe they take great care of their You sound like you are very dedicated to the well being of your cows, unfortunately, not all dairy farmers are. Better science please Dairy Guy! Anti-agriculture groups (like nutritionfacts . I have read many facts and arguments pertaining to this article, and it is very clear milk is harmful for us. Its a really tough business to be in, and if youre not producing top quality milk, the creameries will not take your milk. It actually got worse. Conservatively using what was described in the medical literature as frank pus (80,000 cells/microliter) and converting from microliters to drop (50 microliter/drop) would mean 4 million cells per drop. I think its great if you provide a better environment for animals.. for something (milk) that world is not ready to give up. Amen!! Otherwise, they wouldnt be able to continuously rape the cows, steal their babies and all their milk, and beat them when they dont cooperate. If you do respond, thank you for your time! Normally these cows can live 20 years but poor dairy cows literally lay down and die at 4-5 years due to the endless cycle of pregnancies. It makes sense right because what is the point of a high producing milk cow if she will only be around a few years. Subtracting the 200,000 that could be present in nonmastitic milk and subtracting the non-inflammatory fraction (10%) leaves us with 21,600 neutrophils per ml, and multiplying that by the volume of milk in a cup (237ml) comes out to be about 5 million neutrophils per cup. Stick to the point, we are discussing milk. I think what you mean is that we are the only species that can drink another species milk. Well, that is pus ! Actually China traditionally didnt consume milk and they were healthy and lived long. The dairy guy has explained the immune response well. Many animals will drink/consume milk from any source if given the chance, because of the incredible nutritional value that milk has. Im an active duty US ARMY GREEN BERET that thinks its wrong of you to lie to people. SoIs there pus in milk??? , Sorry. Somatic cell counts greater than a million per teaspoon are abnormal and almost always caused by mastitis. PETA). Now, lets take a look at these pus cells that anti-dairy groups claim are in the milk you drink. This is what they sell you. So it got me thinking surely human milk also have this immune response? My mum drank at least a pint a day and she was full of energy, enough for a tiny 52 lady to run a pub single handedly with and look after the house upstairs and look after the rest of us. You eat broccoli for a week and ill drink milk. Its insulting that you say I lie though. A lot of vegetables make me very, very sick. increasing bad Cholesterol, antibiotics intake and more) as well as aesthetic aspects of Somatic/pus cells in milk, and have not been able to make myself consume Dairy again since (really unfortunate because I loved everything about it). We can disagree, debate the merits, fact check, and so on. Its basically a measurement of the cows immune system. As a general rule, it would be easier to link people to registered dietitians as they have PhDs and know what they are talking about. Mastitis will only causethe milk to be watery, or have flakes or clots. Everyone is truly missing the point, is milk from another animal fit for human consumption? Meat has white blood cells in it because theres blood, and white blood cells are in blood. Pathogens are microorganism such as bacteria that make us sick. Take this blurb from the Code of Practice for the Care and Handling of Dairy Cattle: Overall goals to strive for are: b) Reduction in the occurrence of clinical mastitis to two or fewer clinical cases per 100 cows per month. Adherence to the Code is now mandatory on all dairy farms across Canada. But what I will say is for 5 years I have lived dairy free and my blood work is amazing, as the dr put it. Somatic cell count IS NOT pus. Contributing time, energy, resources towards making an actual change in the world. Good to have it explained so clearly by you. pushers: vegans and animal rights extremists (i.e. Human milk is tailored to humans for a reason. Is there an underlying agenda? Because dairy milk is pooled together in large tanks, virtually all dairy milk contains this pus. Liliana Peralta, director of the food engineering department at La Salle University in Bogota, Colombia, told AFP that what is written in the image caption about whitening milk doesnt happen, (this process) doesnt exist!. Im afraid I do not have the individual capacity to house retired animals but I do make a regular contribution to an animal sanctuary that rescues exploited animal from farms like yours so, challenge accepted! The 100% healthy, active and shiny person, drinks blue cap milk daily. I see you havent read the comments on some of these topics lol. I consume dairy, but you are totally off base and not very educated on the facts. According to the USDA, 1 in 6 dairy cows in the United States suffers from clinical mastitis, which is responsible for 1 in 6 dairy cow deaths on U.S. dairy farms. . I wish they would go to a vegans farm (all natural from Earth kind of farm) and pick whatever , then go to a slaughter house and pick and kill there own flesh also. Vegans are the weirdest creatures in the face of the earth. Now Chona drinks milk together with adopting other Western thing and it gets sicker by the day. When Ive gotten over the ahhh milk with give me allergy stuff, Im going to switch to lacto free milk which is what my partner occasionally drinks as he has ulcerative colitis. And what u do with the calves, especially the male ones ? guaranteed every test will have pus in it. mitchell henry obituary; housing authority rome, ga; tom brady personality traits; can you drive from glacier national park to banff; why did they replace bertha in fred This accurate definition from Wikipedia sums up mastitis clearly and succinctly: Mastitis occurs when white blood cells are released into the mammary gland, usually in response to an invasion of bacteria of the teat canal. According to the new USDA data, the American milk supply averages 224,000 somatic cells/ml (based on bulk tank samples taken from whole herds). Also, simply making money off of something (people need to make a living after all) doesnt change what the actual science has to say, or what reality is. Im sure you dont remember me, but I am sorry regardless. These guidelines were written to be realistic and practical for dairy farms. Other than wanting facts to then decide what I feel. Dairies use Alternatives to Antibiotics to keep Cows Healthy, https://www.dairymoos.com/ants-milk-aphids/, http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/14-cattle-trucks-burned-in-arson-at-Harris-Ranch-2455411.php, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html, article on fat to learn about the nutrition misconceptions, http://nutritionfacts.org/2011/09/08/how-much-pus-is-there-in-milk/, https://www.dairymoos.com/debunked-nutritionfacts-org-puss-in-milk/, https://www.dairymoos.com/what-is-somatic-cell-count/, Interesting Facts about California Agriculture, Lactose Intolerance not only Genetic but Cultural. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. The cows are fenced in, but when they get out they arent running away. Which the author admits are caused by infection. The goal of the agricultural industry is to sustain human life and livelihood. Pick up a back-issue of National Geographic, for goshs sake. Its not gross. Cloth upholstery heated and power-adjustable front seats fold-flat third-row seats and Hondas Magic. This ensures that the cow is nice and clean before every milking. This is what you drink, warns one Facebook postthat was shared more than 45,000 times since it was published in 2016. Milk is tested both on farm and at the processing plant, and one of the tests run is called a somatic cell count test. Why would you post that to support the idea of animal activists causing suffering? I dont understand why you keep saying that its not pus. If the udders of our factory-farmed dairy cows are inflamed and infected, industry folks say, it doesnt matter, because we pasteurizethe pus gets cooked. If you agree or disagree, please feel free to let me know in the comments below. Does this article apply only to organic muck ? You try to breed the strong bulls to the weak cows to give them the strength they need. 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